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	<description>Perfection has its price. And it&#039;s too high.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The One Percentage Higher than 99 by Barbara Martin @Reptitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Martin @Reptitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many shades of gray -- walking in someone&#039;s shoes -- and yes, a agree we are all in the world together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many shades of gray &#8212; walking in someone&#8217;s shoes &#8212; and yes, a agree we are all in the world together.<br />
<span class="cluv">Barbara Martin @Reptitude recently posted..<a class="554a61daac 1561" rel="nofollow" href="http://reptitude.com/try-this/walking-to-infinity/">Walking to Infinity</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 1561" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on An Invitation to Write Something Horrible! by Michelle Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, and thanks for your interest! This month I will be sending out my first newsletter ever,,,so your timing is perfect. :)

I don&#039;t have the link up yet, but check back within the next week or two, and there will be a subscription box on my main page where you can enter your email address. Coming very soon, I promise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, and thanks for your interest! This month I will be sending out my first newsletter ever,,,so your timing is perfect. <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the link up yet, but check back within the next week or two, and there will be a subscription box on my main page where you can enter your email address. Coming very soon, I promise!<br />
<span class="cluv">Michelle Russell recently posted..<a class="ec02857e54 1414" href="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/discernment/holodecks-and-string-quartets">Holodecks and String Quartets</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 1414" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheartplus.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on A Lesson in Letting Go by Michelle Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, when I just looked him up online, the few sites I found were mostly in Spanish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, when I just looked him up online, the few sites I found were mostly in Spanish!<br />
<span class="cluv">Michelle Russell recently posted..<a class="a5a1196596 1413" href="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/discernment/holodecks-and-string-quartets">Holodecks and String Quartets</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 1413" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheartplus.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on An Invitation to Write Something Horrible! by bet365 malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>bet365 malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will immediately clutch your rss feed as I can&#039;t in finding your email subscription link or newsletter service. Do you have any? Please let me understand in order that I may just subscribe. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will immediately clutch your rss feed as I can&#8217;t in finding your email subscription link or newsletter service. Do you have any? Please let me understand in order that I may just subscribe. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Lesson in Letting Go by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha -- &quot;left coast.&quot; I learned tabla from Maharudra Dhumal, Ganeshpuri India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha &#8212; &#8220;left coast.&#8221; I learned tabla from Maharudra Dhumal, Ganeshpuri India.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Lesson in Letting Go by Michelle Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, David!

Yes, you read it right. And there&#039;s a part of me that still can&#039;t believe I tossed all those tapes, even after all this time. But it was like having an entire mountain in front of me, knowing that there were some nuggets of gold hiding below the surface but also (gradually) realizing that it was folly to expect myself to have time to dig through an entire mountain to find them. 

And now I&#039;m chuckling because I just looked up at my post and realized I&#039;d used the &quot;gold&quot; analogy even when I wrote it. :)

I just checked your website and it looks like you&#039;re up the &quot;Left Coast&quot; in Washington . . . is that where you learned tabla? Anyway, I&#039;m glad you found me here, and I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the post.

Leaving you with a &quot;Dha - [  ] - Te-Re-Ki-Te-Ta-Ka&quot; ! ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, David!</p>
<p>Yes, you read it right. And there&#8217;s a part of me that still can&#8217;t believe I tossed all those tapes, even after all this time. But it was like having an entire mountain in front of me, knowing that there were some nuggets of gold hiding below the surface but also (gradually) realizing that it was folly to expect myself to have time to dig through an entire mountain to find them. </p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m chuckling because I just looked up at my post and realized I&#8217;d used the &#8220;gold&#8221; analogy even when I wrote it. <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just checked your website and it looks like you&#8217;re up the &#8220;Left Coast&#8221; in Washington . . . is that where you learned tabla? Anyway, I&#8217;m glad you found me here, and I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the post.</p>
<p>Leaving you with a &#8220;Dha &#8211; [  ] &#8211; Te-Re-Ki-Te-Ta-Ka&#8221; ! ;o)</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Lesson in Letting Go by David@ sell textbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>David@ sell textbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a tabla player myself, I can imagine how much you treasured your tapes. And though I was *shocked* you threw them away (did I read that right?!?), I totally resonate with the feeling of freedom you had when you did so. That feeling actually &quot;comes through&quot; your post! I enjoyed reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a tabla player myself, I can imagine how much you treasured your tapes. And though I was *shocked* you threw them away (did I read that right?!?), I totally resonate with the feeling of freedom you had when you did so. That feeling actually &#8220;comes through&#8221; your post! I enjoyed reading it.<br />
<span class="cluv">David@ sell textbooks recently posted..<a class="ba841e6b8d 1374" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.booksintocash.com">Sell Textbooks</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 1374" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Holodecks and String Quartets by Michelle Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 19:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara, thank you—I’m enjoying this discussion, too.

I did think about whether or not to use the phrase &quot;channeled through you&quot; because I realized it might be taken as implying some sort of external intervention. I don&#039;t necessarily mean it that way--I was using it loosely so that it could just as easily mean you can &quot;channel&quot; creativity from your own unconscious--but I went with it, partly to see if it would provoke comment--so thank you! :)

I do think you&#039;re highlighting a really valid point, though. You&#039;ve made me realize that since Molly&#039;s original post came from an entrepreneurial business context, I responded with a very goal-oriented flavor. Even using something as subjective as music for my metaphor, I approached it from the intent of &quot;externalizing what you imagine,&quot; which is, um, definitely an externally oriented goal.

Could it be all those perfectionistic, goal-oriented tendencies (which inspired me to start this blog in the first place) making me view things this way by default? Naaaaahhh... ;)

Seriously, though, you&#039;re drawing an important distinction that I missed between creative work with a preconceived goal and creative work done for a particular reason.

In the former, the flow state itself is probably the main goal (see, there I go again!), with the end result being, as you said, a by-product. That by-product might have value in and of itself, to you and/or to others, but it’s incidental to the creative process.

In the latter, the creative process is subservient to the result you’re aiming for. It’s always &lt;i&gt;nice&lt;/i&gt; when you can get into a flow state with it, but when you don’t, you basically keep slogging along, probably running into Steven Pressfield’s Resistance-with-a-Capital-R (see http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/creativity/how-to-declare-art) along the way.

You’re making me think more deeply about this stuff. Very cool. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara, thank you—I’m enjoying this discussion, too.</p>
<p>I did think about whether or not to use the phrase &#8220;channeled through you&#8221; because I realized it might be taken as implying some sort of external intervention. I don&#8217;t necessarily mean it that way&#8211;I was using it loosely so that it could just as easily mean you can &#8220;channel&#8221; creativity from your own unconscious&#8211;but I went with it, partly to see if it would provoke comment&#8211;so thank you! <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do think you&#8217;re highlighting a really valid point, though. You&#8217;ve made me realize that since Molly&#8217;s original post came from an entrepreneurial business context, I responded with a very goal-oriented flavor. Even using something as subjective as music for my metaphor, I approached it from the intent of &#8220;externalizing what you imagine,&#8221; which is, um, definitely an externally oriented goal.</p>
<p>Could it be all those perfectionistic, goal-oriented tendencies (which inspired me to start this blog in the first place) making me view things this way by default? Naaaaahhh&#8230; <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, though, you&#8217;re drawing an important distinction that I missed between creative work with a preconceived goal and creative work done for a particular reason.</p>
<p>In the former, the flow state itself is probably the main goal (see, there I go again!), with the end result being, as you said, a by-product. That by-product might have value in and of itself, to you and/or to others, but it’s incidental to the creative process.</p>
<p>In the latter, the creative process is subservient to the result you’re aiming for. It’s always <i>nice</i> when you can get into a flow state with it, but when you don’t, you basically keep slogging along, probably running into Steven Pressfield’s Resistance-with-a-Capital-R (see <a href="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/creativity/how-to-declare-art" rel="nofollow">http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/creativity/how-to-declare-art</a>) along the way.</p>
<p>You’re making me think more deeply about this stuff. Very cool. <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv">Michelle Russell recently posted..<a class="ac5d60cfb0 1360" href="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/discernment/holodecks-and-string-quartets">Holodecks and String Quartets</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  1360" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheartplus.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Holodecks and String Quartets by Barbara Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 01:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a distinction in my mind between creative work which often has no preconceived goal and simply works its own magic (there&#039;s also a potential divide as to whether you believe it is channelled through you from an external source/power, or simply arises through your unconscious) and the product is more of a by-product of the process, vs. creative work that is performed to solve a specific problem and is thereby an applied skill. In the first instance, if you reach a state of flow you probably would not be conscious of the time passing. In the second case, you might or you might not be aware of it, depending on whether or not you hit that flow state. :) haha let&#039;s muddy the water, shall we?!  Thanks for a really interesting discussion here Michelle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a distinction in my mind between creative work which often has no preconceived goal and simply works its own magic (there&#8217;s also a potential divide as to whether you believe it is channelled through you from an external source/power, or simply arises through your unconscious) and the product is more of a by-product of the process, vs. creative work that is performed to solve a specific problem and is thereby an applied skill. In the first instance, if you reach a state of flow you probably would not be conscious of the time passing. In the second case, you might or you might not be aware of it, depending on whether or not you hit that flow state. <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  haha let&#8217;s muddy the water, shall we?!  Thanks for a really interesting discussion here Michelle.<br />
<span class="cluv">Barbara Martin recently posted..<a class="46a55a5450 1358" rel="nofollow" href="http://reptitude.com/creativity-at-work/journal-about-time/">Getting A True Picture of Your Time</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  1358" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Holodecks and String Quartets by Michelle Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 23:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Barbara—fantastic observation about being in flow with the raw material. It’s a fine (and tough) line to walk, holding your overall vision while also allowing yourself to be in the moment when the creation is being channeled through you.

And I agree that you don’t &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; have to have a grand vision—that would be exhausting! Sometimes you just need to play. :)

For the stuff that’s meaningful enough that you really do want to go for the gold, I like your suggested methods—the “beta version” approach and the “hard deadline” tactic. The only problem for me with the latter is that I experience the resulting pressure as negative stress rather than positive encouragement. I’ve been so hard on myself for so many years, I’d rather err on the side of being kind to myself instead of deliberately placing myself in situations that increase my stress level. But I know it’s a method that works well for many people! (I remember back in college how many of us would wait until 10:00 p.m. on the night before the big report was due to start on it…)

Thanks for the really insightful comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Barbara—fantastic observation about being in flow with the raw material. It’s a fine (and tough) line to walk, holding your overall vision while also allowing yourself to be in the moment when the creation is being channeled through you.</p>
<p>And I agree that you don’t <i>always</i> have to have a grand vision—that would be exhausting! Sometimes you just need to play. <img src='http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the stuff that’s meaningful enough that you really do want to go for the gold, I like your suggested methods—the “beta version” approach and the “hard deadline” tactic. The only problem for me with the latter is that I experience the resulting pressure as negative stress rather than positive encouragement. I’ve been so hard on myself for so many years, I’d rather err on the side of being kind to myself instead of deliberately placing myself in situations that increase my stress level. But I know it’s a method that works well for many people! (I remember back in college how many of us would wait until 10:00 p.m. on the night before the big report was due to start on it…)</p>
<p>Thanks for the really insightful comment!<br />
<span class="cluv">Michelle Russell recently posted..<a class="1abd822d45 1356" href="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/discernment/holodecks-and-string-quartets">Holodecks and String Quartets</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  1356" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.practicemakesimperfect.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheartplus.gif"/></span></span></p>
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